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    honoluludesktop
    last edited by honoluludesktop 25 Sept 2010, 01:26

    Originally released on 09/24/2010 as v0.38 Alpha, this is v2.2 Beta dated 5/17/2011. Dxf_In is for use with Dxf ASCII files, and now includes support for Dxf layers. Until the SketchUp Ruby API is updated, the application is limited to locating Dxf files in a DriveLetter\Path\FileName.dxf written in Standard ASCII characters. Read help for other limitations, and error messages.

    Freely use, and abuse at your own risk. Fitness of use is not warranty
    French translation thanks to D. Bur., Freely use, and abuse at your own risk. Fitness of use is not warranty
    For SuPro Users: DxfIn will face closed polylines. The model in the image below normally imports into SuPro as a wireframe.

    http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=55101

    Example of Dxf imported into SU v8

    Download and place plugin into the SketchUp Plugins folder ("Google SketchUp xx\Plugins" where xx is the SketchUp version number). From the SketchUp menu, select File, then Import Dxf. The options menu defaults can be changed to your preferences. If your imports are slow, and you typically do not import materials, select as "None". The default settings are satisfactory for most situations. Get Help from the options menu the fist time you use Dxf_In to see which entities are supported. The importer will convert closed polylines into faces by default or edges by selection. In the situation that a closed polyline has a hole in it, the importer will face it by default. Inspect your model, and delete those faces. Other options include selecting the Dxf model's units, locating by its origin, by the model, or with the mouse pointer. The final option selects the method of inserting materials on the model's faces. The default material setting is is by Acad's color numbers. By name is by Sketchup's materials, and by model is the current model's materials.

    When a error message provides the option to Cancel, where possible, the application will skip the problem, and continue the translation without displaying the error message.

    The application is slow, and has minimum error trapping for processing the dxf file. Unsupported geometric entities include text, dimensions, polyface mesh, and nested blocks. If you require any unsupported entities, explode them into their basic parts before creating your dxf.

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      charly2008
      last edited by 25 Sept 2010, 14:28

      Hi honoluludesktop,

      I wanted to try it once but I can't find it in the Plugins menu!

      Charly

      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        honoluludesktop
        last edited by 25 Sept 2010, 14:32

        Hi Charly, It's in the lower part of the File menu. Let me know if you have any problems.

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          charly2008
          last edited by 25 Sept 2010, 15:12

          OK, there it is present. It works but not as it should be!

          I imported an example dxf, below you can see the result in the first image. The second shows the imported dxf in Sketchup pro 7.

          Charly


          Unbenannt1.JPG


          Unbenannt2.JPG


          ALBA.zip

          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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            honoluludesktop
            last edited by 25 Sept 2010, 15:32

            Ouch, looks like my block references, arcs, and circles need work. Thanks for the dxf file, that will help me correct it. Btw, what version of Autocad did you use to make the Dxf?

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              charly2008
              last edited by 25 Sept 2010, 15:59

              I have downloaded the DXF-file from the Internet.

              He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                honoluludesktop
                last edited by 26 Sept 2010, 13:32

                The basic arcs, have been corrected, but the Dxf contains entities currently unsupported by "Dxf Import". Until these are added, along with support for "nested block(s)", only the most basic geometry, will be imported. If necessary, the unsupported entities can be exploded into supported entities prior to being imported into SU.

                I have been unable to test "basic block(s)" except in the simplest cases. If I can get a Dxf with "BLOCK" and their related "INSERT" entities (not INSERT(s) inside a BLOCK) to test, I will then be able to check them. I need someone to post a Dxf with a pair of BLOCK(s) made in Acad as illustrated below.2 groups, a cube and a cylinder.

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                  Bep
                  last edited by 27 Sept 2010, 08:54

                  Hi Honoluludektop,

                  I'm sorry that i cant help you with a real acad dxf ,but would'nt a dxf created with the free doublecad http://www.doublecad.com/LinkClick.aspx?link=http%3a%2f%2factivate.imsisoft.com%2fdoublecad.aspx%3fproductpage%3dDoubleCAD_XT_v2&tabid=1128&mid=3384
                  do the same.

                  Thanks for your effort ,and i wish you succes 👍 ,

                  Bep

                  "History is written by the winners"

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                    honoluludesktop
                    last edited by 27 Sept 2010, 22:10

                    I am not fluent in that app, and failed to take a component into it as a block, and back as a group/component with the original entities preserved. But if you build the model in DoubleCad, and save as a Dxf, I can give it a try. By inspecting the DXF, it is possible to see if the entities are preserved. Thanks.

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                      SurfingAlien
                      last edited by 30 Sept 2010, 21:22

                      thank you very much!
                      I will try it asap and let you know if it works fine with my CAD programs (I'm still with SU 7.1 BTW)

                      cheers,
                      Alessandro

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                        honoluludesktop
                        last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 08:42

                        Beta release v0.50 includes LWPolylines, group names, and some fixes. The following image is the bathtub dxf previously provided.
                        temp13.jpg

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                          honoluludesktop
                          last edited by 4 Oct 2010, 08:43

                          Alpha v 0.45 includes support for Blocks2Groups. Charley, while still missing lwpolylines and ellipse, arcs are resolved, and blocks accomodated in the current release, (I hope:-). Bep, translators are not equal. One app. may elect to export circles as connected edges, in other situations, SU may have, or not have a high level entity that a Cad app supports, so....Sigh!!!!, several situations need to be tested for.

                          Missing lwpolyline and ellipse
                          Acad has more entities then I thought possible. In the process of supporting blocks, I discovered polyface meshes. The following is one of 6 variations in this category. In this release blocks2groups is addressed. I would still like to get a Acad created Dxf of a cube, and drum represented as faces.

                          The polyline is a polyface mesh.
                          Highlighted groups
                          Anyway, if "NO" to convert polyline to faces is selected, the above is created. It is a way of representing a 3d object with polylines, taking the least amount of space in Dxf.

                          In most cases, selecting OK, to a error message, allows you to proceed. In some cases, this is taking too much time, and needs to be accommodated

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                            honoluludesktop
                            last edited by 6 Oct 2010, 20:19

                            Except for polyface mesh, Dxf_in v1.0 imports the basic geometric entities recognized by SU.

                            Dxf polyline mesh import.

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                            • DavidBoulderD Offline
                              DavidBoulder
                              last edited by 7 Oct 2010, 19:22

                              Looks great! I ran it through a test with some DXF's created by EnergyPlus (as part of an energy simulation run).

                              What I noticed is that using your plugin the DXF came in 12x smaller. In the Pro I have units set to feet vs. inches, which works with these DXF's. Easy enough for the user to fix but could be nice option to add down the road. One other thing I noticed is that on your DXF import a few faces were reversed from how there were with the pro importer. The pro importer was not set to "orient faces consistently" but maybe it was doing it anyway, and the source file really does have some reversed faces.

                              Other features that would be nice, but aren't critical, are to support the layer and color applied to a face.

                              DXF_In 1.1 and pro side by side.

                              --

                              David Goldwasser
                              OpenStudio Developer
                              National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                                honoluludesktop
                                last edited by 7 Oct 2010, 20:34

                                David, Thanks. Can you provide a sample dxf (smaller the easier for me) with layer and texture? Perhaps I should provide a options menu.

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                                  DavidBoulder
                                  last edited by 7 Oct 2010, 21:15

                                  @honoluludesktop said:

                                  David, Thanks. Can you provide a sample dxf (smaller the easier for me) with layer and texture? Perhaps I should provide a options menu.

                                  Sure, here is a 50k file from the example above. Now this was made from EnergyPlus, so it may not be the best test case since it wasn't generated by AutoCad. I'm not sure if a similar file from Autocad would like the same or not.

                                  This file has layers and color (not image textures)

                                  (hmm, can I not upload DXF file?)

                                  --

                                  David Goldwasser
                                  OpenStudio Developer
                                  National Renewable Energy Laboratory

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                                    Jim
                                    last edited by 8 Oct 2010, 03:02

                                    you can download lot's of dxf files from here (my google site.) The .zip contains an un-attributed compilation of shared .dxf files designed as 2D cnc routing patterns. (17MB)

                                    I'm wondering, do you know how to handle the bulge data when it appears in the lwpolylines? It's something I'd like to add to my importer, too.

                                    Hi

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                                    • GaieusG Offline
                                      Gaieus
                                      last edited by 8 Oct 2010, 04:06

                                      I made dxf (and dwg) an attachable file extension

                                      Gai...

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                                        honoluludesktop
                                        last edited by 8 Oct 2010, 04:50

                                        Jim, Thanks, I will take a look at your files. Is lwpolyline something that is required by a lot of modern applications? I found the following, but bulge remains unimplemented with my importer:

                                        "The bulge is the tangent of 1/4 of the included angle for the arc between the selected vertex and the next vertex in the polyline's vertex list. A negative bulge value indicates that the arc goes clockwise from the selected vertex to the next vertex. A bulge of 0 indicates a straight segment, and a bulge of 1 is a semicircle."

                                        DXF is on the other side of the moon when compared with SUs faces, and edges. I initially made Dxf_In work for my own Cad application, then added features as others have requested. Initially, by self imposed discipline, all of my cad models were built with 3d faces, and blocks. My Cad2Dxf2Su requirements were simple. But times change, and while my code is fairly well organized to implement new entities, it needs work on the overall DXF structure. Something I ignored since I was only interested in geometry.

                                        Gai, Great. Perhaps, like a lot of others, I only learned how to "send to zip" once I needed to do it.

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                                          honoluludesktop
                                          last edited by 8 Oct 2010, 05:11

                                          Just change the file.extension name to .txt, or right click, sent to .zip first. Thanks

                                          Addenda: See post by Gai below.

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