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    Davidfi1
    last edited by 25 Oct 2008, 20:05

    Hi,
    I found that if I use 4 Levels of grouping SketchyPhysics stops working 😞
    Is it a known bug / feature?

    See attached file.
    David.


    4 Leves of Groupping Example

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      Wacov
      last edited by 29 Oct 2008, 09:10

      I suppose it's not supported because it doesn't seem necessary. To fix this, you just have to explode the groups within the group. EDIT: What do you mean it stops working? The group is just treated like a box for me.

      http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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        Davidfi1
        last edited by 30 Oct 2008, 06:39

        Well
        The grouping of objects is done with the intent that similar groups could be copied with ease.
        So, in the case where you have more the 3 levels of meaningful objects grouped together - SketchyPhysics changes its behavior.
        for instance if I do:
        Table & chairs - group 1
        4 chairs - group 2
        4 legs in each chair - group 3
        now if you want to put plates on the table - you can not group them to the table.

        If you will make another group the hole big group becomes one big box.
        Things can not move under the table etc...

        I need to explode one of the levels to enable SketchyPhysics normal operation.

        Just a little hard to figure out what the plates on the table have to do with the things on the floor under the table πŸ˜„

        Don't you think?

        David.

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          Wacov
          last edited by 30 Oct 2008, 10:54

          I see what you mean, but maybe you should just make the parts, and keep a 'spare' of each one. That way, you can create the complex group, then explode the groups within it when they're positioned. If you want to move something, delete the parts and copy the spare, then explode it.

          http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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            Davidfi1
            last edited by 30 Oct 2008, 19:50

            I think about solving this issue with a script.
            I could write a script that will
            Go though all the second level groups, and
            If there is another group inside it - explode it,
            And repeat this for all the groups until we only have two levels of groups.

            What do you think?
            Should I return to the "grouped" state after the simulation stops?

            David.

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              Wacov
              last edited by 31 Oct 2008, 12:51

              I feel like I'm in too deep πŸ˜„ I think it'd be a good idea if the groups returned afterwards, as they don't really matter in the simulation. I really don't know any ruby script, so good luck πŸ˜„

              http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=3096a836877fb9af6cd8ad826e9017b8&prevstart=0

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                CPhillips
                last edited by 4 Nov 2008, 02:40

                Its a bug. And one I didnt know of. Thanks David.

                Not sure what is causing it but I will fix for SP3.

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                  CPhillips
                  last edited by 6 Nov 2008, 03:55

                  Turns out this isn't really about group depth. It happens when a group contains only a single group.

                  Group
                    Group
                      Box
                      Box
                      etc.
                  

                  Ill fix it in SP3.

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                    Davidfi1
                    last edited by 17 Nov 2009, 06:55

                    SketchyPhysics3x Jun 27
                    This problem is not solved as far as I can tell
                    Thank you.
                    David.

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                      Davidfi1
                      last edited by 1 Dec 2009, 06:31

                      Chris
                      Welcome back!
                      Did you look into solving this in SP3x?
                      Could I help?
                      Is there going to be an RC2?

                      Thank you
                      David.

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                        CPhillips
                        last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 05:42

                        I thought I had it fixed but apparently not... I need to setup a bug database so these things dont fall through the cracks.

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                          Davidfi1
                          last edited by 8 Dec 2009, 19:58

                          Most logical option is to use Google's bug tracking ...

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                            Davidfi1
                            last edited by 24 Sept 2010, 07:29

                            Hi Guys
                            This bug is still not fixed at SP3 on my computer.

                            Thank you.
                            David.

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                              CPhillips
                              last edited by 26 Sept 2010, 03:27

                              @unknownuser said:

                              Hi Guys
                              This bug is still not fixed at SP3 on my computer.

                              Thank you.
                              David.

                              Unfortunately the fix caused other models to break. I'll take another look at it and see if I can come up with something safe.

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                                Davidfi1
                                last edited by 26 Sept 2010, 09:55

                                Excellent πŸ˜„
                                Thank you.

                                Could you also fix the reverse face issue? http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=61&t=24201#p206890

                                Hope it is no too complicated.

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                                  CPhillips
                                  last edited by 27 Sept 2010, 04:33

                                  Its fixed in next version. I hope it doesn't break anything but it was a bad bug and needed to be fixed.

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                                    Davidfi1
                                    last edited by 7 Oct 2010, 08:26

                                    Exelent thank you.

                                    Good work.
                                    It works like it should πŸ˜„

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